One of my favourite pen purchases of 2018, has undoubtedly been the Pineider Avatar, in Lipstick Red from Harrods last May. At the time I bought it, I was vaguely aware of the rather similar Visconti Rembrandt but had never owned or handled one.
The pens share a number of similarities. They are both Italian, both from Florence, both I think designed by Dante del Vecchio (but while at different companies), both are resin bodied, steel nibbed, cartridge-converter fountain pens at what you might say, is the “entry level” for the luxury pen market. I recently heard someone describe the Ferrari California as entry level, so it is all relative. They both feature magnetic, pull off caps, and weighty, shiny, plated grip sections.
I looked at the Pineider Avatar in my post Pineider Avatar fountain pen review. At the time, newly besotted with the Avatar I commented that compared to the Rembrandt, I rather preferred the Avatar’s overall flair.
Four months on, I am still besotted with the Avatar. However I was curious to learn more about the Rembrandt and after watching a few reviews, I succumbed to the temptation to buy one. I felt that it would be sufficiently similar to the Avatar for me to enjoy it for all the same reasons whilst being sufficiently different to make it a worthwhile purchase. What finally tipped me over the edge was a range of new colours, including the Twilight (which I chose) with swirls of purple and glimpses of pink and white like you see when you examine the brush strokes of an oil painting up close. I also blame the magnifying viewer which you can move with your mouse over different areas of the pen, as you deliberate feebly on whether to “Add to basket.” I opted for the Medium nib.
When the Rembrandt arrived, my first impression was that the purple colours did not seem quite so spectacularly vivid in real life. But the pen felt very solid and well made.
It may be helpful to identify a few differences between the Avatar and the Rembrandt, for anyone considering whether to buy one, or both.
The Avatar came in an impressive and unusual gift box, shaped like a writing desk with a fold down top, in dark green faux leather with a padded creamy interior and a set of Pineider stationery inside. The Rembrandt came in a nice, perfectly acceptable but unexciting lidded cardboard box with padded cushion pen rest.
Construction and appearance.
The Rembrandt has the familiar Visconti pocket clip modelled on the Ponte Vecchio, the arched bridge over the River Arno in Florence. It is a hinged clip but needs to be pinched and lifted to slide over a pocket. It has VISCONTI, laser-etched on both sides, not the fancy enamel of loftier versions. The finial has the Visconti “my pen” system whereby you can replace the metal button held in place by a magnet, with a jeweled finial or a pair of initials.
The cap band is smooth and well finished and says VISCONTI on the front and MADE IN ITALY in smaller letters on the back.
The barrel of the Rembrandt is cylindrical, without any tapering until the torpedo-like rounding off at the end, with a shiny, plated metal nose cone, for decoration and to stand on in the pen cup, which is a nice touch.
The magnetic force holding the cap on, is stronger on the Rembrandt and more typical of the effort needed to remove most pull-off caps. It feels reassuringly firm. It is also fun that, with the cap resting on your desk, you can offer the pen slowly into it with one hand and watch the cap leap back on. (I rest my case: it’s worth it just for that).
The plated metal grip section has a slightly raised area just before the nib, to stop your finger sliding onto the nib or feed.
The barrel of the Rembrandt has metal threads inside, to screw onto the metal threads of the section. The Avatar lacks metal threads here.
The Avatar’s finish is of a most gorgeous, deep red, (like cherry flavour cough sweets called “Tunes”) and has light and dark tones like velvet. The clip is a slender, sprung quill shape, easier to slide onto fabric than the Rembrandt (although I carry them in leather pen cases). The Avatar’s barrel also tapers towards to the foot and then rounds off, with no metal furniture added.
This is where the real difference lies. The nib of the Rembrandt is much smaller than the Avatar’s, best shown in a photograph. On my pen, it was smooth but slightly dry. Fortunately, I was able to adjust it to open up the tines just ever so slightly and this made a great improvement to ink flow and lubrication which are now ideal for my preferences.
The Rembrandt’s nib is very good but lacks those long sweeping curves of the Avatar which give it slightly more flex and line width variation and which make the Avatar such a joy to use.
Weights and measurements (approximate),
|Pineider Avatar||Visconti Rembrandt|
|Weight, total (capped or posted)||27.5g||33g|
|Weight, cap only||10.5g||13g|
As can be seen, the Avatar is longer when uncapped. However, I still prefer to use them both with caps posted, holding them at the barrel rather than around the metal section. This avoids both the potential issues of slippery sections or of the pens becoming back heavy due to posting and I find them both perfectly comfortable posted. Neither of them has any cap threads, but there is a slight step on the Avatar. The Rembrandt is smoother to hold.
Both pens write wonderfully, with good ink flow, smooth and well lubricated for effortless writing. The Avatar feels the more expressive, simply because of the longer nib.
Cost and value.
Prices may vary depending where you look but I paid £148.00 for the Avatar and £125.00 for the Rembrandt. I felt that these prices were fair.
So which is better? Which should you buy? I am delighted with them both. Most people, I think, would be happy to own either one of them. It is only when you have used them both that you notice little advantages in one over the other but they are like brothers from different mothers. If pushed I would say that the Rembrandt feels stronger, heavier, more substantial and robust, whilst the Avatar is prettier, longer, more delicate and has a more enjoyable nib. Perversely, I would conclude that the Rembrandt is the better pen but go and buy the Avatar. It’s beautiful. Here is my favourite nib pic again if you are still not convinced.
9 thoughts on “The Visconti Rembrandt v The Pineider Avatar fountain pen.”
An excellent comparison, particularly the details like the barrel threads. I am surprised how small the Rembrandt’s nib is – that has really put me off.
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Thank you very much! Yes, the nib is the biggest difference between these two. But there are plenty of good pens which have small nibs so size isn’t everything.
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Excellent comparison, thank you! Your delight in the Avatar shines through.
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Thank you! People hàve actually said “Wow! It writes like a gold nib” when trying my Avatar.
This is great – have been waiting for someone to do this. What’s your impression of the fit and finish of the Rembrandt? Mine has a lovely nib but the “enamelling” on the clip came off almost immediately and it has corroded around the My Pen thingy…
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Thanks for reading. I hope it was useful. I have no complaints over fit and finish of the Rembrandt. I do not envisage the lettering on the pocket clip deteriorating as it seems to be formed by laser etching the surrounding area to leave the letters in shiny plating. It may be that mine is a newer version. I am surprised to hear of the corrosion. Perhaps some liquid got trapped there. Shouldn’t happen in normal use.
Thank you for an interesting companrison between these two Italian brands. I think your impression is right: the Visconti Rembrandt is sturdy and reliable, but the Pineider looks more refined. I have the Rembrandt red (bought years ago at Rome airport while waiting for a plane, on a whim). The Pineider, as the brainchild of Visconti’s ex designer Dante Del Vecchio, is also a wonderfully stylish looking pen, but I have yet to try it. Perhaps the answer is to have one of each?
Thank you. Yes, that worked for me! I was a bit biased towards the Pineider at the time I wrote this, but the Visconti has grown on me. I just had to adjust the nib a very little to make it wetter and now it writes like a dream.
Good seeing you at the pen show earlier. I hope you had an enjoyable day.